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"morning joe" starts right now. >>> romney just released an ad in which, for the first time he speaks directly to camera. in all the other ads, you don't see him talking to the camera. you just hear his voice and see him walking around. the goal is to show he does care about americans who are struggling financially. he does a pretty good job with it. >> it many americans are
"morning joe" starts right now. >>> romney just released an ad in which, for the first time he speaks directly to camera. in all the other ads, you don't see him talking to the camera. you just hear his voice and see him walking around. the goal is to show he does care about americans who are struggling financially. he does a pretty good job with it. >> it many americans are
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we have romney and obama in virginia right now. we have this segment called purple rain for a rain. it's solidly purple, and this is an interesting race for many reasons in virginia. what are you watching? >> the problem in virginia for the romney campaign is they're on the defensive on all the issues, on the economy, women's issues, national security, all of issues that are important they're on the defensive right now. they don't have an issue opening to press the obama campaign on in virginia. they're behind on the economy, which was supposed to be president obama's weakness. so i think they're really in trouble in virginia. we've seen a slip on the part of the romney campaign since the convention, so whatever that convention bounces, it turned into a convention slide in virginia. we have a series of polls out now that show the gap widening between obama and romney. i think the romney campaign needs to find an opening, a gap to shoot in virginia on that issue. they need to press that gap. >> it's interesting you say that the spokesperson for the rnc in saz said obviously in 2008 w
we have romney and obama in virginia right now. we have this segment called purple rain for a rain. it's solidly purple, and this is an interesting race for many reasons in virginia. what are you watching? >> the problem in virginia for the romney campaign is they're on the defensive on all the issues, on the economy, women's issues, national security, all of issues that are important they're on the defensive right now. they don't have an issue opening to press the obama campaign on in...
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right now romney doesn't have any card to play. the last thing they can do is make americans believe that when barack obama talks about the successes of the last four years, that he is simply lying. >> well, don't say that he has any more cards because there may be more tapes on obama at the rate he's going. joe madison, alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >>> ahead, he's been in hiding from the romney campaign but when they told george w. bush to go away, they probably didn't mean go toll the cayman islands for an investment conference. >>> and hundreds and thousands voting today in iowa. it's a big day for this election. stay with us. >> this is the movement of our era. protecting that fundamental right, not just for this election but for the next generation and generations to come. ♪ why not take a day to explore your own backyard? with two times the points on travel, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. a great clean doesn't have to take lo
right now romney doesn't have any card to play. the last thing they can do is make americans believe that when barack obama talks about the successes of the last four years, that he is simply lying. >> well, don't say that he has any more cards because there may be more tapes on obama at the rate he's going. joe madison, alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >>> ahead, he's been in hiding from the romney campaign but when they told george w. bush...
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>> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you write for "the nation," you're not a right-winger, but don't you have a sense they'll say, that's the way the pendulum goes. they'll stay he didn't have enough ideological weight to win. >> i think you're right about that, but i also think that paul ryan is worried about that issue. and, you know, paul ryan is a very ambitious political player. he's a nice guy. hard worker, very disciplined. i think much more disciplined than mitt romney. >> he's up at 4:00 in the morning and does push-ups. i know, it's pretty amazing. >> and hundreds of them, man, while listening to "rage against the machine." but he is a disciplined player with a political career track. i think he is worried about being on the bottom of a badly losing ticket. you know, it didn't really go that well for sergeant shriver after running with mcgovern in '72. so i do think that ryan thinks about it. my sense is that he wants to get out there and be more in front on this ticket. whether that creates tension, i d
>> mitt romney's fault. >> that's what i think. john, you write for "the nation," you're not a right-winger, but don't you have a sense they'll say, that's the way the pendulum goes. they'll stay he didn't have enough ideological weight to win. >> i think you're right about that, but i also think that paul ryan is worried about that issue. and, you know, paul ryan is a very ambitious political player. he's a nice guy. hard worker, very disciplined. i think much more...
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romney's people know they're in big trouble, right? down about ten in ohio. even the fox news poll shows romney losing in a lot of these swing states. they understand they're in trouble. do they believe they've got a chance to turn it around? >> they do and they do. they know they're in trouble and they -- you know, they have tried a little bit to play the polls or bias game in the last couple days. but pretty half-heartedly as far as i can see. you know, they argue that they're within the margin of error in ohio. a lot of people don't really understand how margin of error works. so you can be pretty far behind and still be within the margin of error because it applies to both candidates. when something says a 4.5% margin of error, they'd have to be nine points apart. they realize they are significantly down in ohio, they're significantly down in the swing states. they know that -- they think that governor romney, the ad yesterday, they were very happy with. they think it was very -- a very effective ad. they think that they're sharpening his economic message
romney's people know they're in big trouble, right? down about ten in ohio. even the fox news poll shows romney losing in a lot of these swing states. they understand they're in trouble. do they believe they've got a chance to turn it around? >> they do and they do. they know they're in trouble and they -- you know, they have tried a little bit to play the polls or bias game in the last couple days. but pretty half-heartedly as far as i can see. you know, they argue that they're within...
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you the two ads we just saw are engaging on the right topic for the american t voters. a business round-table last week had a meeting. our ceo said it privately and then publicly yesterday, we released a big drop, third sharpest drop in expect i guess so as of ceos on sales and hiring than we've seen in ten years. the economy is not good and for the candidates for the presidency to be talking about competing growth agendas, that ought to be good ground for romney. >> why is that message not getting out? what has he done that's not been effective? >> i don't know. maybe taxes, tapes, conventions. >> 47%, yeah? >> no, i think what he is, this is a long time in this campaign. i believe with governor kasich. before governor of 1990, the weekend before in the front page of the paper said i would lose 54-40. these polls are not what voters are thinking often and i say let these candidates engage on the economic issues. governor romney can't win on those issues, he won't win. but i think he can. >> well, you know, we've also seen and talked about this earlier in the hour about
you the two ads we just saw are engaging on the right topic for the american t voters. a business round-table last week had a meeting. our ceo said it privately and then publicly yesterday, we released a big drop, third sharpest drop in expect i guess so as of ceos on sales and hiring than we've seen in ten years. the economy is not good and for the candidates for the presidency to be talking about competing growth agendas, that ought to be good ground for romney. >> why is that message...
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if mitt romney hadn't gotten in the way. >> right. >> i think that was a big deal he got in the way because that distracted the conversation for at least ten days, him attacking the president. i think now, people have moved back to the economy a little bit. i don't know that people are foe cutting on this as much. >> richard, there's going to be on october 22nd the third debate focused on foreign policy and you can bet the republicans will use this against the president, perhaps we'll have more detailed. how much has he been weakened by the benghazi attack? >> not hugely, to be honest because he struck, as lois said a dignified tone, the president's response was what you expect from the head of state, from national leader. you know, this is a -- clearly an incredibly messy situation, events were messy, libya has no central government that has effective control over its territory. argue that gadhafi didn't either. in a chaotic situation, it's natural that it takes time for the facts to emerge. you're also talking about a number of different splinter groups at work here. and, by the w
if mitt romney hadn't gotten in the way. >> right. >> i think that was a big deal he got in the way because that distracted the conversation for at least ten days, him attacking the president. i think now, people have moved back to the economy a little bit. i don't know that people are foe cutting on this as much. >> richard, there's going to be on october 22nd the third debate focused on foreign policy and you can bet the republicans will use this against the president,...
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there were signs of trouble right away. remember when mitt romney went a little rogue himself on the subject of libya and essentially accused the president of treason. that's going way out on limb there. the vice president's job is to go right on that limb with him and cover the president's pack. but he didn't do that. he let mitt romney hang out there on his own. if there's a problem here, i imagine it has to do with ambition. that's what roger simon was touching on. paul ryan was supposed to bring excitement to the romney campaign. instead he brought a lot of pants on fire ratings from the fact checkers. mitt romney was supposed to be paul ryan's ticket to the white house but things aren't going so well and paul ryan is probably thinking i've got a mill stone around my neck. this isn't going to help me for 2016 at all. if there is bad blood between them, that's what it is. they're separate ambitions are not being satisfied by one another. >> certainly that springtime appearance in florida that was secretly recorded is not
there were signs of trouble right away. remember when mitt romney went a little rogue himself on the subject of libya and essentially accused the president of treason. that's going way out on limb there. the vice president's job is to go right on that limb with him and cover the president's pack. but he didn't do that. he let mitt romney hang out there on his own. if there's a problem here, i imagine it has to do with ambition. that's what roger simon was touching on. paul ryan was supposed to...
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the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was bush's fault. is romney missing opportunity to go after obama on his record and misstatements, stories i hear out of politico for one is he focused more on mistruths in the debates and the campaign. is that a good strategy? >> it's really one of the few arrows he has left. no question about it. he won't win in election by attacking president obama. he has to give the american people a clear and cojent plan why he's better and a better bet to take. it's always a risk when you turn away from an incumbent president. americans have shown their willingness to do so. the carter election and the first george bush ele
the mitt romney who was governor and not the mitt romney who trying to become an extreme right-winger. he's not comfortable with it. you can see the wheels turning when he's asked questions, guys. what do i say that doesn't offend the base? good lord, governor, the base was voting genz president obama no matter who is on the ballot. the compete for the rest of us. >> let me ask you about president obama. "the washington post" gave the president for pinocchios on the claim it was...